Can this fit in React Router just standalone? And we discovered, yeah, it totally can. Then we brought it all over to React Router. I kind of skipped the server side of stuff in my career but did a lot of that too.
I did a putsch of PHP in Rails and stuff too. Then we figured out, oh, shoot, we can do mutations as well with forms, just like old-school web. Once we had a server and could start thinking about, all right, we got a server, what can we do here with our router, and yeah, got the data loading. And they had some really cool data abstractions, which I guess brings us to today, where we discovered some cool stuff in Remix. Yeah, been working on that for a couple years. JASON: Yeah, then built just that little old thing. Then React hit the scene, and I jumped on the wagon with everybody else. If you read through our features page on the React Router doc side, we have a whole paragraph that’s like talking about how Ember taught us about these nested routes and how cool they are. Then after that, I did some backbone and jQuery together. So that’s when I really cut my teeth in JavaScript. And that was the prototype, Mu Tools, jQuery. So I really got into JavaScript and really dynamic websites in the early 2000s. Then the next day I’m like, hey, come look at your website.
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So I got back into it, and she’d go to websites on other people’s portfolios and be like, hey, can you make it change colors when they switch pictures? No, I don’t know how to do that. So my wife is like, didn’t you know how to make websites when you were a kid? I was like, oh, crap. But the teacher is like, you could also make a website if you know how. And we could either print one, and that was going to be like 300 bucks. Then I got married, and my wife needed either a - she was studying photography, so she needed a portfolio. And then came back and then got into college and didn’t do a whole lot. Did some volunteer work for my church for a couple years. Then I kind of - I didn’t do a whole lot with web development for a couple years. The popular bands in Utah would let me play shows with them if I promised to build them a website. Honestly, I kind of hit my - I started making websites for my punk rock band. Then I remember when J-script and JavaScript showed up on the scene. That’s when I got started, just HTML and CGI. Back then, you just had your own FTP server and could stick files there and you had a website. Remember those? You had to like plug into the phone line and call up and do all the modem noises. Maybe someone in the comments can tell me how old I am.Īnyway, so the internet comes out, and my dad invested in ISP. Maybe even just a super high level of your kind of path to today would be super useful. JASON: And then I think, you know, it’s safe to assume that people have probably come across your work in the past, but you created React Router. But I mean, if you’re watching this show, you’ve probably heard of React Router. I can’t believe we’ve been working on that thing for almost a decade. So, created it with my partner Michael Jackson, business partner. For folks who maybe aren’t familiar with your work, do you want to give us a bit of a background before we jump in? I think this is going to be a whole lot of fun. Well, yeah, so I’m thrilled to have you back on the show. JASON: Yeah, I think that’s the way it goes. JASON: Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of two beards, two hats, two hoodies.
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